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Name: | silveraven
(silveraven@geneclark.com)
| | Date: | Wed 24 Oct 2007 10:33:58 AM EDT | | Subject: | Server woes | | | Due to circumstances beyond control, sun spots, full moons or other glitches in cyberspace, the forum archives have evaporated. Please feel free to begin a new round of comments. | | | Post Reply | | |
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Name: | Mark Peasley
(markpeas@hotmail.com)
| | Date: | Fri 26 Oct 2007 12:25:45 PM EDT | | Subject: | Return of forum | | | All hail Silver Raven. Great to have your service back again. Now a question for John Einarson (if you're listening) . What compelled you to write Gene's biography? Was it as a result of your research for "Desparados" or did it emanate from an other place? | | | Post Reply | Display replies to this message
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Name: | J. Einarson
(jeinarson@mts.net)
| | Date: | Sat 27 Oct 2007 08:23:54 AM EDT | | Subject: | Why I wrote a biography of Gene Clark | | | To answer your question, I was a fan of Gene's music since first hearing the Byrds back in 1965, notably their debut album. I followed his career and bought all his releases over the years. I always felt Gene was under appreciated. Certainly writing "Desperados" was part of the motivation but what drew me to take on Gene Clark's life was that I believed there was a strong story to tell. I'm always attracted by a compelling story. Gene's life fit that bill.
Initially I had intended to write a "definitive" Byrds biography with the collaboration of the three surviving originals. Hillman and Crosby agreed (they were not happy with Timeless Flyte's portrait of the band) but McGuinn didn't want another Byrds book. The other two wouldn't do it without McGuinn onboard and I agree with that. So instead I decided to do Gene's life and got the cooperation of the three and most importantly the endorsement of the Gene Clark Estate and Gene's family and siblings. | | | Post Reply | Display replies to this message
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Name: | Francis Fullam
(quire1@earthlink.net)
| | Date: | Sun 28 Oct 2007 02:56:09 PM EDT | | Subject: | $2.3 Milllion for Gene Clark's Car? | | | The brown Ferrari originally owned by Steve McQueen just sold at auction for $2.3 million dollars, a record for this particular model. I am wondering if it is the same car that he sold to Gene Clark? In his biography of Gene Clark, John Einarson mentions that Gene was a friend of Steve and Steve sold him a brown Ferrari. Could it be the same car? Brown is an unsual color for a Ferrari so what are the chances that Steve McQueen had 2 of them. Does anyone know if it is the same car? It was be nice that something he enjoyed is so valued and will be taken care of so well.
Francis Fullam
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Name: | Paul
(rpfelton@swbell.net)
| | Date: | Sun 28 Oct 2007 11:48:51 PM EDT | | Subject: | The Byrds: Under Review | | | I bought "The Byrds: Under Review" and found it to be surprisingly entertaining. There are several great music clips, including McGuinn playing banjo for the Chad Mitchel Trio and Clark performing with the New Christy Minstrels. John York and Gene Parsons, as well as Johnny Rogan and others, give some unique insight into the band. Hillman and Crosby provide a few comments. Most of those interviewed seemed to try very hard to be objective.
Although there are some very positive comments regarding Clark, I thought he, once again, failed to get the credit he deserves. I may remember this wrong, but it seemed that Crosby received most of the credit for "Eight Miles High" in the video.
And why is the reunion album hardly mentioned? I have to say that I really like that album. I think Clark's four songs are exceptional, Hillman's two are pleasant, McGuinn's "Born to Rock and Roll" is very good, and Crosby's cover of "For Free" is enjoyable. But even if it was a disappointment, shouldn't it have been discussed in as much detail as, say, Byrdmaniax?
Another flaw was that there were no comments from McGuinn, few comments from Hillman and Crosby, and no quotes from Clark or Clarke, as well as offering a fairly limited number of interviewees. Didn't the Dillards arrange the vocals for "Mr. Tambourine Man"? Why not interview them?
Despite some relatively minor flaws, I thought the video was very well done overall and I would highly recommend it to anyone who is interested in the Byrds.
By the way, I heard about this video from someone on this forum. I don't remember who mentioned it, but I'm glad they did. Glad the forum is up and running again too.
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Name: | Ronnie
(@beckey.david@gmail.com)
| | Date: | Mon 29 Oct 2007 03:39:26 PM EDT | | Subject: | Gene Clark Covers On The New Alison Krauss/Robert Plant album! | | | There are two Gene Clark covers on this new record, the songs are "Polly" and "Through The Morning, Through The Night", they do a great job on those, and the rest of the album is fantastic, I highly recommend it!
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Name: | Fred
(vermont@warwick.net)
| | Date: | Tue 30 Oct 2007 07:13:06 AM EDT | | Subject: | The Byrds: Under Review and Question . . . | | | I am glad to see someone who enjoyed the DVD "Under Review". I saw on Amazon that it only got three stars, but that is no doubt due to a few disappointed reviewers. I guess having John York and Gene Parsons as top commentators frustrated some people. I happen to like the whole of the Byrds' career, but my favorite Byrd is Gene Clark. When I first "discovered" the Byrds, I was 14 in 1978. I took a liking to McGuinn (the granny glasses) and his singing and Rickenbacher. I liked Gene secondary, but over the years realized what an incredible song writer and vocalist he was. There is definitely a mysterious quality to him, and like most other Gene fans I believe he never got the recognition he deserved. I loved the Gosdin Brothers album when I first heard it. I personally feel it's better than the first three Byrds albums that Gene appeared on. Biased? Perhaps. I do intend to get the "Under Review" DVD. * Can anyone tell me what songs on 5D that Gene helped record before he left? The only one I'm sure of was "Eight Miles High". | | | Post Reply | Display replies to this message
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Name: | Tom Sandford
(ts1463@yahoo.ca)
| | Date: | Tue 30 Oct 2007 09:12:26 AM EDT | | Subject: | Gene Clark w/ Carla In Concert CD | | | The recent Gene Clark with Carla Olson In Concert album is one of the featured albums today on All Music Guide. It's given a very positive review. | | | Post Reply | | |
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Name: | Joe
(ThatsRight900@aol.com)
| | Date: | Thu 01 Nov 2007 12:07:19 AM EDT | | Subject: | "Under Review" and More | | | First off, it's great to see the Forum back, and what a loss it is to have lost the archive. Despite considerable dreck, there was so very much good info there.
Though it's obvious that something far better could be done with the cooperation of more folks, I found "Under Review" to be entertaining and informative. I don't recall Crosby getting all that much credit for "Eight Miles High" in the film, I could be mistaken. Certainly there's raves in the film about David's songwriting. While he is immensely talented, I have never considered songwriting to be one of Crosby's talents.
When I first read "Desperados", I knew Mr. Einarson was a Gene fan. It just came right across, and I believe my comment was that he "understands the importance of Gene". Depressing as the story was, I can't thank him enough for tackling it, and doing it with what seems like all the principals' approval. Great job, sir.
And an earlier poster mentioned something I've never heard before. Is it true that the Dillards had something to do with the vocal arrangement on Mr. Tambourine Man"? | | | Post Reply | | |
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